loughner had to do that in tucson, arizona, fewer people would have been shot and killed there. >> right, and i think there is a provision if there is somebody in your home who has mental illness, you would have to have the gun locked up. look, there are a number of provisions that governor cuomo and the legislature put in place, that is a model. the nra wouldn't like that, they have a different motto, the stand your ground laws. i think there are a lot of th g things -- i want to say two things, on this fake argument over the assault weapons ban, what is an assault weapon? i mean, i talked to somebody who is a special forces officer who is deploying to afghanistan. this is a guy in iraq, afghanistan, like knows a thing or two about this. and he said no, that is the kind of gun, a civilian version of the kind of gun we carry in war. you had general stanley mcchrystal, i think i'll take their words over rush limbaugh and crazy people on line who don't actually know what they're talking about. >> now, joy reid to this very sick thing we saw in the nra's ad as we saw when we opened this th